jackky: Q038A- David Cone Stat-head All-Star

Q038A- David Cone Stat-head All-Star

19 Oct 2017 à 05:54am

As many FanGraphs readers know, David Cone is more than a former All-Star pitcher and current color commentator for that Ny Yankees. He is also a stat-head. The borderline Hall of Famer he ranks 50th all-time in pitcher WAR has shown a willingne s introducing sabermetric concepts to the listening audience. Cone discu sed his appreciation for advanced metrics, and his evolution as a pitcher over 17 seasons, during a late-summer trip to Fenway Park.


 


David Cone: I was fairly far Tavon Austin Jersey along like a pitcher when I began which was in 1986, with the Royals because I had many years within the minor leagues and a couple of years of winter ball. Going to Puerto Rico for 2 years really solved the problem as far as my overall command and style. Then i evolved more at the big-league level, so far as secondary pitches.


I really learned how to pitch later in my career, after i lost just a little velocity and my skills and my arm speed started to diminish a little bit. I continued to evolve in terms of arm angles and different grips. In early stages, I relied more on power. My first few years with the Mets, I had been probably much more of a thrower than the usual pitcher. I spent six years with Mets and six with the Yankees, and Id state that my Yankees years were more my pitching years, and my Mets years were more my strikeout-power years. In between, I had the shorter stints with the Royals my second time with them and Blue Jays.


Early on, I had been a fastball-slider guy. I threw a four-seam fastball for the most part. I threw an intermittent curve. Later, with the Mets, I created a splitter. Ron Darling were built with a good splitter and I watched him. I had to spend probably 3 or 4 many years to really develop a good feel for it.


We didnt have as much data when I pitched. I think it might have helped me. I would have loved to have seen the hitters tendencies, as well as data by myself pitches. Id have liked data which hitters were more selective, and which Quinton Coples Jersey hitters chased from the zone more. And if they did, which pitches did they chase?


Earlier this year I researched some data on Ben Zobrist. It was when he was struggling, but was still getting his share of walks. His on-base percentage was still decent. I stopped working the individual counts, like how many 2-0 and 3-1 counts he saw. Hed seen greater than others in the league at that point, but also, he swung under others on those counts. Understanding that kind of tendency would have been helpful to me after i pitched.


I realize that the Yankees come with an extensive database. Brian Cashman and Billy Eppler his right-hand man like all kinds of data. Joe Girardi is as well.


Some players get overloaded with data. Theres a balance there, especially like a pitcher. Should you become too oriented toward hitters weakne ses instead of your personal strengths, you can get right into a defensive mode and wind up pitching defensively rather than aggre sively. Information is good, however, you need that balance.


When I believe to some of my old teammates, Ron Darling would have been really good with a lot of data. Bobby Ojeda is another. Jack McDowell would likely happen to be thinking about having it. Other guys wouldnt have. An example may be Sid Fernandez, who'd some remarkable numbers. He was one of the toughest pitchers to hit in the game.


Sid didnt throw with great velocity, but he had great movement. He had a four-seam fastball which had a lot of life in the strike zone. He got a lot of swings and mi ses by using it, and that he also had a big, slow curveball he threw in the upper 60s. He'd a very wide differential between his fastball velocity and his curveball velocity. He would be a guy who didnt want to get rid of Cody Davis Jersey pitches. He wanted Gary Carter to call the sport and he would focus entirely on execution. He was just like a skeet shooter or a sniper, just concentrating on the prospective and not wanting to be clouded with anything else. Attempting to di seminate a lot of information would probably have recently dragged him down.


Bret Saberhagen, conversely, is yet another guy who would happen to be good with a lot of information. I gue s it comes to who can handle information and who cant. Some may use it to their advantage, while others would get jammed up.


I think John Sullivan Jersey I would have been thinking about data like a young pitcher, but more so later in my career. More recently, Ive gotten into mounds of knowledge. Ive checked out a lot of different things, simply trying to quantify my very own career. But even when I had been playing, I had been a large fan of numbers. In a couple of arbitration cases, we used some advanced metrics to did a little deeper. These were extremely effective. I won a couple of arbitration cases, because my agent, Steve Fehr, was very progre sive. It was in early 1990s.


There were a few years where my record was around .500, however i didnt obtain a large amount of run support. I had been 14-14 twelve months and thought Id pitched better than my record. I needed to prove it, because most of the general managers back then just kind of looked at batting averages, RBIs and won-lost records. It might be, Well, you didnt win 20.


I was happy to see Zack Greinke win the Cy Young award. The same goes for Felix Hernandez as he won it. There has been major breakthroughs. Its great to see a lot of baseball writers buying into it, and how that affects the voting. It would be interesting to return and also have a re-vote on certain years.


When I started looking deeper into my very own career, I thought 1993 was interesting. Jack McDowell was with the White Sox and I was with the Royals. He won the Cy Young award and I went 11-14 using the lowest run support in the league. I had been within the top 10 in innings pitched and ERA. A number of my Michael Brockers Jersey other metrics were good as well, including strikeouts. If you consider the two lines Jack McDowells numbers and my numbers youd have a problem picking out which of us won the Cy Young award.


The year I did win [the Cy Young award], I think I deserved it in line with the numbers. Overall, it was certainly one of my favorite years, even though I may have had other years that will rate higher in terms of WAR. I understand that Jimmy Key were built with a good year. It had been a strike-shortened season, therefore it was kind of a quirky year.


Won-lost records, or perhaps ERA, dont tell the whole story, and I gue s thats the idea behind many of the metrics. Theres so a lot more, but for a lot of years, thats solely the way we were judged. It was also how we were compensated. Ive always thought there is a better way to evaluate a better way to check out things and i believe a lot of pitchers have felt this way.


When you appear at Felix Hernandez getting the Cy Young in a year he won 13 games, the writers have come quite a distance. Theres a lot more thought going into it, that is really nice to see, A lot more writers take presctiption board with advanced stats, and them having votes is evolving the machine.



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